NWW: Is what Intel and McAfee are designing going to be something open for other vendors to take advantage of as well in the chip sets of the future?
DeCesare: It has to be open. We deal with companies that don't have Intel chip sets. But we're optimizing with Intel.
NWW: We recently heard McAfee and Intel discussing a cloud-security strategy that would involve using McAfee's ePolicy Orchestrator management and Intel's Trusted Execution Technology to assist in securely moving virtualized server workloads. But they made it clear it's the first chapter with more to come. What's the Intel/McAfee cloud-security strategy about?
DeCesare: I think two, three or five years out, companies that buy endpoint protection will demand versions that integrate with the chip set in the machine. Cloud does the same thing. For instance, we use Oracle's on-demand CRM and the servers don't sit on our own premises. We need to offer security as on-premises or a cloud-based environment. Look, LinkedIn just had a major security breach. If you're going to trust cloud-based applications, you will need to see your data is secure. McAfee is going out to all the "Tier 1: application vendors, such as SAP. We want to make it more attractive to do business in the cloud. We want them to design security in from the ground up. Our whole pitch from Intel and McAfee is you should design it from the ground up. We have Sentrigo database security, for instance. Have we sold it to SAP and Oracle? Not yet. But we have hundreds of companies that use our security embedded, such as automotive manufacturers. Oracle's general attitude is to build it in-house. But they do use a lot of products from us. Have we been successful in that yet? No. Nobody has made that decision yet. But we see interesting parallels with ERP providers and security. There's massive consolidation.
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