Keller: Well, we don’t look at it that way. It’s not just the hardware. As you know, we’re a systems company, and the systems are made up of the hardware and the software. People think of us as a hardware company because we ship our software off inside of a piece of hardware to make that system. And so visually it looks like it’s hardware, but there are millions of lines of software that come with every Sun system that really make up the entire experience someone gets with our products. And it really is a systems-level company, a combination of software and hardware. That’s why we have more software engineers than hardware engineers. It’s why we have an extensive set of operating systems, middleware, software development tools, and capabilities for people that drive their business.
Keller: Yes, it’s an interesting new style of programming we see. [It’s] sort of on the agenda of Web developers who are looking for richer experiences in a Web environment, and so AJAX programming is one that we demonstrated the capability going into our tools to make it easier. One of the things we found is the AJAX program is quite difficult if you have to do it without tooling, and so we’re investing in our Java Studio Creator product to make it much easier for people to build interactive, interesting applications for the Web.
IW: There’s been a lot of talk about Java’s 10th birthday, and it seems like there’s been talk about it for three months now. Where do you see Java in ten years?
Keller: Well, I think Java really is setting itself a springboard from its first 10 years of being able to harness a community of 4.5 million developers, of really delivering on the vision of running applications from smart cards to handheld devices to set-top devices to desktop devices to servers. I think what we’re going to see in the next 10 years is an explosion of the kinds of applications that will go through all walks of life, Both commercial and social, entertainment, and scientific types of applications will be enabled by Java, and [developers] really will deliver a proliferation of kind of services and applications that people will see day in and day out.