November 16, 2009

What not to overlook in buying a used PC

Buying used can save money, but be sure you get all the pieces of the purchase

Buying gear on eBay or Craigslist is a great way to save money and spare the planet a little e-waste -- especially if you're technical enough to troubleshoot problems that might frustrate a lesser geek into selling short. But be sure you get everything that should come with the machines you buy, a hard-luck lesson Gripe Line reader Bob recently learned.

Bob had written in seeking help with an HP TX1000-series tablet laptop he was having trouble with. "The integrated wireless LAN has disappeared," he says. "It is not even showing up under the devices or after re-installing the drivers."

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Bob had tried to self-service the problem, and in researching it, he came across similar complaints online.

"I've read stories of customers having repairs done by HP only to have the same issue reoccur," he says. "I've read many posts about design flaws, Nvidia chip issues, overheating, etc. I would like to get some firm answers and resolution to this issue once and for all." So he asked if I would contact HP for him and sort out the disparate reports he was hearing on the Web about what was causing this problem.

When I contacted HP, I discovered that Bob's problems with this computer were more than technical.

"In following up with the customer to see if we could help," a spokesperson told me, "we found that he had purchased the device off Craigslist for $300. We explained that the warranty stayed with the original owner, so there wasn't much we could do for him."

As it turns out, a simple transfer of ownership might have gotten Bob the warranty that now uselessly resides with the original owner. With something difficult to troubleshoot or an issue that might be a design flaw or requires a hardware replacement, that warranty can be essential.

According to an HP Total Care document [PDF] on the matter, "In the event a covered product ... is transferred with the sale of a used hardware product, registration ... is to occur within ten days of purchase from previous owner. HP IS NOT OBLIGATED TO PROVIDE SUPPORT SERVICES IF CUSTOMER OR HP AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE DOES NOT REGISTER HARDWARE PRODUCT AS STATED HEREIN."

The deal appears to be pretty much the same at Dell.com. Though you may be able to get the warranty on your own if you have enough information on the seller, Dell's policy states, "In order to take advantage of any remaining warranty (if applicable) for a Dell System purchased through an auction site or through a third party, you will need to complete the transfer of ownership form by providing either or both of the following pieces of information: Previous Owner Information, Service Tag and Express Code."

Unfortunately, it appears that Bob is stuck self-servicing the problem, as he can't send it for the HP techs to check it out.

Caveat emptor.

Got gripes? Send them to christina_tynan-wood@infoworld.com.

This story, "What not to overlook in buying a used PC," was originally published at InfoWorld.com.

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rrosen 17-Nov-09 11:34am
1 reply
Gee, when I buy a used car, the remaining warranty automatically transfers to me. Why should computers be different?
tgroleau 17-Nov-09 12:24pm
That's true of cars that cost thousands or tens of thousands of dollars but it's not generally true of manufacturer's warranties. Check the warranties of other things that you buy (furniture, appliances, etc.) and you'll find very few transferable warranties, especially on a $300 item. Taylor guitars and Trek bicycles are both relatively high-end brands and neither warranties their products beyond the original purchaser. I'm impressed that HP allows any warranty transfer. Perhaps 30 days to register the new owner would be more generous than 10 days, but at least they allow a transfer.
BigRonG 17-Nov-09 8:39pm

Why wouldn't HP repair this computer for fee? Or is it that Bob only wanted it done if it WAS free? They should have at least quoted him some outrageous cost so that he could feel better about kissing his $300 goodbye.

eswiderski 18-Nov-09 9:47am
The problem with this is similar to the numbers game played with rebates. The potential benefit is offered up front to secure the sale but then obstacles are placed in the path of anyone attempting to claim the benefit. If a manufacturer is sincere about the warranty they offer they will honor it from the time of original purchase, regardless of who they believe the registered owner is. What happens in the case of clerical error or lost data? If the product was previously registered they already know the original purchase date. If date of original sale cannot be documented then the coverage reverts back to the date of manufacture.

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